To check on the current Penang Government.: FB comments on the issue of ILLEGAL demolition generally in Penang

Citizen Chant

what is a fair solution as YB Chow said that , not fair for developer to buy the land and later find that they cannot demolish the building.

pls give us your comments.

To check on the current Penang Government.: 20 Pykett since 2008 the only illegal demolition, develo

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- Diana Boon In the first place, guidelines should be in placed so that the developer knows what he is getting and buildings in that land can/cannot be demolish. That is a responsible govt.
  6 March at 13:29 · · 2
- Diana Boon Developer can make building part of their development to maintain its history
  6 March at 13:30 ·
- Yee Li Ong show us the local plan then we know we wont buy wrong land.
  6 March at 22:01 ·
- Diana Boon Penang Heritage is only asking developers/builders to preserve its history and heritage areas and buildings as part of your vision of development for Penang. It has got nothing to do with purchasing the right or wrong land.
  7 March at 11:36 ·
- Yee Li Ong ops... I got it wrong. mppp should set the line clear. so it is a responsible of government.
  7 March at 15:13 ·
- Rebecca Wilkinson The problem lies in the fact that the 'heritage list' inventory has not been updated. This is wrong & shortsighted of the authorities. Barely any of our wonderful buildings are actually 'listed' let alone 'protected'. It is for this reason that the Heritage Bill has to be passed & the Heritage Commission set up & an inventory immediately taken. With this 'listings' & therefore some protection for these buildings is put into place. Without this in place, we are fighting a losing battle. It is disgusting how developers & the authorities that allow them, just feel that it is ok to wipe out the story of Penang's past, connections to our neighbouring countries & to the people who in effect 'made' Penang. The State & authorities have to be pressured now!
  7 March at 15:17 · · 1
- Gwynn Jenkins I find it fascinating that there is an assumption that you can do what you like with your land and or property. Not the case -even if your family have owned it for generations. So much energy goes into imagining possibilities, that those up there dreaming away, forget to check with reality. The laws are there to buy from many bookshops, plain as day. What this suggest, however, is that up until recently its been fairly easy to get your ambition through... Oh dear does this mean that there have been lax goings on? Never to late to take a reality check and get back to good governance and civil behaviour.
  7 March at 18:42 · · 1
- Rebecca Wilkinson Exactly Gywnn! The fact that you cannot just do what you want is, granted, frustrating at times but at the same time, here in Penang with all these lovely places, it should push us all to think out of the box & create really wonderful things! The potential for a well thought out union of old & new in development is long tern, a wonderful investment
  8 March at 06:02 · · 1
- Khoo Salma According to Malaysian Town & Country Planning Act, a permit is required to demolish ANY building and this permit is usually given with planning permission. Planning permission is given provided all conditions are met, and public interest is not sacrificed. It is wrong for a developer to buy any piece of land and assume that they have a RIGHT to demolish, they have legally no such right but have to apply for permission. Development rights as is commonly understood is an idea borrowed from US planning law situation but not under British planning law and the Malaysian TCPA allows Malaysian local government more power to protect the public interest, such as environment, heritage and other public good. This is not my own interpretation but we had a workshop with a UK Professor of Planning Law who was asked to study how to create heritage laws for Malaysia many years ago.
  8 March at 12:56 · · 1
- Citizen Chant I have a friend who is struggling to survive as biz is bad and his dad left him a piece of land worth 500 per sqft. There is a old building on this land, he vant demolish it. No one wants to buy his land because of this, he was only offrered 100 per sqft.
  Saturday at 16:53 · · 1
- Citizen Chant is this fair to this poor guy, his wife and five kids r suffering one of the kids have a genetic heart defect as well.
  Saturday at 16:53 · · 1
- Citizen Chant what can u all suggest some solution a fair win win holistic solution, our PGGOVs fav phrases.
  Saturday at 16:54 ·
- Citizen Chant wat about a land swap, the state owns land, swap land with the land owner . Can be land of equivalent value.
  Saturday at 19:11 ·
- Citizen Chant chowkonyeow@penang.gov.my via srs.bis3.ap.blackberry.com to me, Patahiyah, limguaneng
  show details 12:16 PM (2 hours ago)
  Yan Lee should not quote me out of context. I have said when développer buy land with buildings, they have to check with the Council's'heritage inventory. The Council cannot impose no demoltion condition if the building is not in the list Under this context, I have said it is unfair.
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  Sunday at 14:45 ·
- Citizen Chant above clarification as listed.
  Sunday at 14:46 ·
- Lim Cheok Siang Jimmy What was reported was YB saying that MPPP uses an existing list made in the 90s. Is that out of context? If not then what does this mean? This topic should be an interesting issue for a debate between MPPP, State Govt. fed MP
  about an hour ago ·
- Lim Cheok Siang Jimmy Fed MPs vs NGOs organised by Citizen Chant Group? A statement like this is frightful and has wide meaning. Can the RAs, NGOs and conservationists expect a public debate with the Govt?
  about an hour ago ·
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