Tuesday, 21 February 2012

Fwd: FW: illegal demolition on Macalister road ??



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Patahiyah Bt Ismail <hiyah@mppp.gov.my>
Date: 2012/2/21
Subject: FW: illegal demolition on Macalister road ??
To: Yew Tung Seang <tsyew@mppp.gov.my>, Roslan Bin Ramly <roslan@mppp.gov.my>, Noorhanis Bt Noordin <hanis@mppp.gov.my>
Cc: "leeyan.c@gmail.com" <leeyan.c@gmail.com>, Patahiyah Bt Ismail <hiyah@mppp.gov.my>


Tuan / Puan

 

Dirujuk untuk perhatian dan tindakan selanjutnya.  TK

 

Zaliza

From: Yan Lee [leeyan.c@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:53 AM
To: Patahiyah Bt Ismail
Cc: aduan@mppp.com.my
Subject: illegal demolition on Macalister road ??


Puan

Please look into this matter, does the land owner have permission to demolish this property.




Another building along Macalister Road will be demolished. Opposite the new wing of Loh Guan Lye Hopspital building
 ·  ·   · 16 February at 17:16
  • Ching Seng Lee likes this.
    • Rebecca Wilkinson Buildings are coming down like dominos at the moment.....
      16 February at 17:17 ·   ·  1
    • Yee Li Ong penang is getting out of control by this high-rises replication. today's lost of control scenario will be suffered by tomorrow. as a malaysian, i see myself have losing so much cultural understanding and now im seeing the future generation is continued losing it, the mentality development is customizing into same system. the intelligent city of penang has no deepest content to explore.
      16 February at 22:24 ·   ·  2
    • James Malcolm Alexander Justice Time to get local tv on side and highlight this issue, elections coming up? This clearly proves the CM has an agenda that has no interest in Penang's Heritage only money. This must raise a few questions as to who is benefiting from all this development money and its not the real Penangite. But Penang deserves every thing it gets, after all only fools would use a jailbird to guard a bank.
      17 February at 02:50 via Mobile ·   ·  1
    • Bok Choon Lim Grade 1, Grade 2... Not many left in the world! These building should be listed by now!
      17 February at 05:54 · 
    • Marion Olsen Who is responsible for listing buildings in Penang?
      17 February at 07:03 · 
    • Jan van der Heijden Where can we obtain a list of all the listed heritage houses (Grade 1 & Grade 2) on Penang Island? Have they all been immortalized with photos?
      17 February at 08:08 · 
    • Bok Choon Lim Good questions Jan van der Heijden andMarion Olsen!
      17 February at 08:11 · 
    • Rebecca Wilkinson I'll try to find out the info. I believe it's all in the hands of Council but will get proper info.......
      17 February at 16:37 · 
    • Marion Olsen Should the PHT be on an advisory board for such things? Before it is too late? Or should they be pushing hard from the sidelines to get buildings graded? I gather grading doesn't always have a 'must not be touched' outcome, or am I wrong there?
      17 February at 17:04 · 
    • Rebecca Wilkinson Just to clarify, PHT is an NGO, we have to fight in order to make ourselves heard & we spend huge amounts of time sending letters, alerts, complaints etc into Council & State. THis is very much 'invisible' work & often, thankless! We do sit in on lots of the meetings when we are invited & we do request to attend meetings where our voice needs to be heard. Unfortunately, PHT has no 'authority' within the system. All of us that contribute & work at PHT are volunteers & we are supported by 2 full time staff in the office. It is hard work! In a perfect world GTWHI is the State/Council body that should be doing all the advisory stuff with authorities. They are the 'guardian' authority of the UNESCO site. As I always say, it is really important that the people 'get behind' heritage & conservation & start adding their voices. PHT thanks you all for your support of heritage in Penang!
      17 February at 17:13 ·   ·  1
    • Rebecca Wilkinson ‎James Malcolm Alexander Justice- just to be fair see below- re LGE & jail: Jailed under Sedition Act
      Lim was arrested by the Malaysian police in 1994, following his criticism on the government's handling of allegations of statutory rape in one of his constituents by former Chief Minister of the state of Melaka, Tan Sri Abdul Rahim Thamby Chik. Consequently, while the Attorney General decided not to press charges Rahim Thamby Chik, Lim was charged under Section 4(1) (b) of the Sedition Act 1948 for causing 'disaffection with the administration of justice in Malaysia'. Lim was also charged under Section 8A (1) of the Printing Presses and Publications Act 1984 for 'maliciously printing' a pamphlet containing allegedly 'false information' because he had described the alleged rape victim as an 'imprisoned victim' because she was initially detained by Malaysian police without parental consent for 10 days. During the judicial procedure, Lim was quoted saying:
      " If I fail and have to go to jail, I have no regrets. I have no regrets of going down fighting for the principles of truth and justice. And pursuit of human rights, especially women's rights. There can be no women's rights if women rape victims are considered equally responsible, and even detained, whilst the accused remain free. "

      — Lim Guan Eng, http://home.clara.net/heureka/sunrise/lim-guan.htm
      After a series of appeals, Lim was sentenced to 18 months imprisonment. He was, however, released after 12 months on August 25, 1999. Due to his incarceration, he was disallowed from standing for election to public office for a period of 5 years, and he was therefore ineligible to contest in the 2004 Malaysian General Election.
      home.clara.net
      The Trial of Lim Guan Eng, the denial of justice, human rights, freedom of expression in Malaysia.
      17 February at 17:21 ·   ·  2
    • James Malcolm Alexander Justice ‎@ Rebecca Wilkinson Thanks for your comments, I was aware. But where did those principles evaporate too? To observer not affected by Malaysian politics all I can see is the systematic rape of Penang's Heritage that only benefits the ones with an immediate financial interest. And leaves one with the clear impression he has set aside these principles and wants payback and Penang drew the short straw. So by selling Penang's crown jewels he plays to the current Malaysian obsession with making mega money. Something that we all know few achieve at the expense many.
      But the World Heritage office is funded by the state gov and needs to constantly pushed for comment on these issues, then whatever their response this placed in the press or the web. After-all the politics of the web is being used to good effect by the Komtar all be it one sided as all negative comment is removed.
      17 February at 23:26 via Mobile · 
    • Ho Sheau Fung There is a State heritage inventory, the list is not open to the public at the moment, but you can go to George Town World Heritage incorporated (GTWHI) at Acheen Street or Komtar Level 11, MPPP heritage department to enquire about the status of the buildings. And yes, the inventory has photos of the buildings. However, if possible, the inventory should be updated every 2-3 years.
      Saturday at 09:18 ·   ·  1
    • Jan van der Heijden What might be the reason that the list is not open to the public?
      Saturday at 09:22 · 
    • James Malcolm Alexander Justice A good question Jan. In April 2010 I had a meeting at GTWHI, regarding the Crag/Uplands on the hill. I asked if they keep whether they had structural/photo/historical records of these buildings. As this would be useful in preserving or restoring these buildings to their former glory. They said no, this seems odd, leaving the impression that GTWHI is a white toothless elephant set up by the Komtar with the intention of giving the impression to voters and the World Heritage Organisation that they have the situation under control.
      Sunday at 00:13 · 
    • Ben Wismen don't be too harsh on GTWHI. They are still new, and their jurisdiction is within the area of George Town WHS. Penang Hill lies outside the jurisdiction of GTWHI.
      Sunday at 01:15 · 
    • Bok Choon Lim It's all for the benefit of Penang's Heritage either inside or outside the core/ buffer zone! Not at all harsh. If you're still new, you need to expect a steep learning curve bearing in mind demolition took place while you're trying to establish yourself! Need help? Please shout!
      Sunday at 01:51 · 
    • Ben Wismen I am sure they have tried to reach out to the other stakeholders. I have worked with them on various occasions, and know that they are keen to do all they can to protect the heritage. However, like I've said, they are only limited to the GTWHI. Everyday, they are faced with various problems within the GTWHI. Probably it is time for us to reach out to them and assist them instead of shouting at them. The onus lies on the State Government, and the MPPP to ensure that ALL the heritage buildings in the Island is not bulldozed indiscriminately.
      Sunday at 01:54 ·   ·  2
    • Rebecca Wilkinson Well said Ben Wismen I know how much work you have been doing as well. The State Gov & MPPP must implement regulations & enforce. This involves monitoring & getting on the ground. So many in State & MPPP do not get on the ground & see where the problems are......they sit in their offices all day
      Sunday at 21:45 ·   ·  2



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